
Phantom Chat
No Phone, No Email, No Trace: Phantom Chat Beta Open
Details
- Follow on
- @veilusdigital
- Use Cases
- Live Chat
- Target Audience
- TradersSecurity TeamsPrivate persons
- Pricing
- Subscription from $14.99
- Platforms
- Mobile
About Phantom Chat
Phantom Chat is the messenger I built because every other one felt like a compromise. Signal wants my phone number. WhatsApp wants it too. iMessage is tied to my Apple ID. Telegram's encryption is opt-in. Wire wants an email. Threema is decent but the local export still leaks structure. I wanted to message a friend without handing over a permanent identifier first. So I started building Phantom Chat — solo, in evenings and weekends, from Western Australia. Two design choices were locked in from day one: 1. Anonymous sign-up. No phone, no email, no real-name field. You pick a username, that's it. Contact discovery is invite-code-only — there's no way to search for or browse other users. If your invite code never leaves the people you sent it to, your account essentially doesn't exist outside that circle. 2. Post-quantum encryption from day one. Apple shipped PQ3 on iMessage in 2024. Signal added PQXDH the same year. WhatsApp still doesn't have it. I figured if the giants were finally doing it, an indie shipping in 2026 had no excuse not to. Every conversation runs through a hybrid Signal Protocol Double Ratchet + NIST FIPS 203 ML-KEM-768 (Kyber). "Store now, decrypt later" attacks don't work on it. The business model is the part I'm most opinionated about: no VC, no ads, no data sales. I've capped lifetime "Founder" seats at 500 specifically so I never have enough runway pressure to take outside investment or sell user data. Subscribers fund the company. If I run out of subscribers I run out of company — but I never become a different company that wants to sell your messages to a model trainer. The fight with myself for the last six months has been honesty in marketing — I do code-vs-claim audits before every release and have removed three site claims that didn't quite hold up (Sealed Sender, an outdated iMessage comparison, and the word "air-gapped"). I'd rather lose a hook than ship spin. Now in public TestFlight beta, Apple-approved on first submission. Looking for testers, technical critique on the cryptography, and the PP perspective on the indie-bootstrapping side. Happy to chat about any of it.
Product Insights
Phantom Chat is an anonymous mobile messaging application designed for private communications, featuring post-quantum hybrid encryption and no requirements for phone numbers or emails. Available as a paid subscription starting at $14.99, it provides secure live chat for traders, security teams, and private individuals.
- Anonymous registration requiring only a username, without needing a phone number or email address.
- Post-quantum hybrid encryption utilizing Signal Protocol Double Ratchet and NIST FIPS 203 ML-KEM-768.
- Invite-only contact discovery with no searchable user database to prevent external discovery.
- Subscription funding model capped at 500 lifetime seats to prevent data monetization pressure.
Ideal for: This mobile app is ideal for traders, security teams, and private persons who need a secure, anonymous live chat solution with post-quantum encryption.
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Reviews (3)
Average 4.3 out of 5
Based on 3 reviews
Looks interesting for internal circles. However another chat app feels a little extra unless one actually wants complete secured and privacy of chats.





Comments (11)
The goal is simple: to build the most secure messenger in the world, by someone who isn't being paid to look the other way. Privacy isn't a feature here. It's the entire reason this exists, and it's the one thing that will never change.
The product is built around a single commitment that won't change: your messages, your contacts, and your activity are not the product. We can't read what you send. We don't profile what we can see. We don't sell, share, or rent any of it.
Fixed another bug with groups, Version 191. 192, Download the beta and click on the 3 person icon and click on join group by code and paste this code in. group open to 500 users and for 30 days, N6ZX-VEHJ-EZ73P5 come say hi, or feedback
Been bug hunting today, found a few more and squashed them, New version of Beta to download is 1.9.1 190. Code for group chat still live, come in and say hello and tell me what you think of the app.
Okay so just fixed an annoying bug with groups, and added terms and policy to the auth view. Need to tick to create a user now. New code for group chat if you dare hahaha. N6ZX-VEHJ-EZ73P5
Nice idea !
New code, If anyone wants to see how the group chat works, download the beta and click on the 3 person icon and click on join group by code and paste this code in. group open to 500 users and for 30 days KZ8N-G589-WS5BVU
Interesting. Will try it soon.
If anyone wants to see how the group chat works, download the beta and click on the 3 person icon and click on join group by code and paste this code in. group open to 500 users and for 30 days 5KD7-77VB-KVQ6YG Look forward to chatting to
In beta at the moment and looking for testers. iOS 17 + https://testflight.apple.com/join/rmSrMch9
Solo founder in Western Australia. I've been building Phantom Chat for the past 8 months. iOS-only for now (iOS 17+), Android on the roadmap.